[gpva-ic] FW: GPVA funds for Nova and Tidewater Greens

[Audrey Clement]

Tamar,

I concur with you that the only prudent way to disburse funds to the locals is via the tried and true method of reimbursement. I would add the IC listserv is not simply the preferred way to communicate with the IC. It is the ONLY way to assure that all members of the IC are properly noticed of a proposal. 

For example in the current situation at least one IC member was not noticed by John Reeder and others did not receive sufficient correspondence to make an informed decision. As a result most members didn’t know that the disagreement was not about WHETHER to fund the locals, but HOW to fund the locals. Thus the GPVA Bylaw that IC members be properly noticed of a proposal was violated.

In my experience most people who give short shrift to procedural matters like adhering to Bylaws also give short shrift to Robert’s Rules. John says he recommends Robert’s Rules. So one would think that he would scrupulously adhere to parliamentary rules for conducting a vote. Yet the way this particular motion was handled was more than sloppy. It made a joke out of due process.

Fortunately there’s not enough money in the GPVA account for the outcome to matter much. But I recommend that GPVA clean up its act before funding any congressional races, or we are likely to run afoul of the FEC.

Audrey

From: Tamar Yager 
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 4:21 PM
To: John Reeder ; GPVA Interim Committee Listserve 
Subject: Re: [gpva-ic] FW: GPVA funds for Nova and Tidewater Greens

John,

I feel like  you are missing the point.   The best way to make sure you have the updated IC list of people is to use the listserve.  It is also archived.  It also shows how everyone "votes".

I am not opposed to the expense itself but rather the method of approval and the fact that we would put the money up instead of asking for reimbursement.

So, I vote "no:"

Tamar


On 7/28/2013 3:41 PM, John Reeder wrote:

  I'm sorry you were missed in my original email.
   
  The proposal:  give $150 each to the Nova Greens and to the Tidewater Greens for public membership activities to get new members.
   
  How do you vote?   Yes - No - Abstain
   
  There is nothing in the bylaws requiring the use of the IC listserv.
   
   


   


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  Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:09:23 -0400
  From: tamar at gp.org
  To: gpva-ic at vagreenparty.org
  Subject: Re: [gpva-ic] GPVA funds for Nova and Tidewater Greens


  For the record, I did not know this was going on because I was not included in the original emails since they were not on the IC listserve.   I'm not necessarily against it or for it but if it has been conducted as a vote on the IC list I would have been able to discern.   Usually for things like this, most committees or groups would simply ask that the initiator spend the money and then get reimbursed rather than the other way around.   Just approved an expenditure of up to xxx dollars.

  Please conduct votes on the IC listserve.

  Tamar Yager

  On 7/27/2013 11:31 AM, John Reeder wrote:

    votes for:  Kirit, Chris Simmons, Joe Galdo, Mike Shushan, and myself John Reeder.
    Against:  Audrey, Charlie, and Don Mackler.  Not heard from Scott.  



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    Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:41:00 -0200
    From: aclement65 at hotmail.com
    To: gpva-ic at vagreenparty.org
    Subject: Re: [gpva-ic] GPVA bumpersticker ideas


    John,

    You hàve not responded to my request  that you produce a tally of the vote to disburse funds to the NoVA and HR locals. This is contrary to IC policy

    John Reeder mailto:jreeder123 at msn.com wrote:


    We have discussed printing a bumpersticker; I used ideas that people submitted for a possible GPVA bumpersticker and used a political bumperstick template from Microsoft to compare them.
    Any one of these look better to you?
     
    We can choose one of these at our September 21 meeting in Tidewater or choose another slogan if one of these is not good.
     
    My goal would be to give any dues paying member a bumpersticker or to sell them at cost.  I am not sure what their cost will be, depending on how many we print, but $1.50 each or so for an order of one hundred.


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