[gpva-ic] RE: IC Decision NOW IN PROGRESS regarding membership list distribution to GP Presidential Candidates

[Audrey Clement]

Chris,

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but proposals cannot be amended once up for 
a vote. The proposal to give the GPVA mailing list to GPUS presidential 
candidates is now being voted on.

Audrey

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Christopher Fink" <verdicorps at comcast.net>
To: <gpva-ic at vagreenparty.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: RE: [gpva-ic] RE: IC Decision NOW IN PROGRESS regarding 
membership list distribution to GP Presidential Candidates


> For the record, I will second the motion to put review of the deadline, 
> but
> not the whole proposal, on the May meeting agenda, if it passes. This does
> not, of course, preclude anyone else from seconding that the rest of the
> proposal be reviewed.
>
> We will also make it clear to the candidates (if the proposal passes) that
> such review may be pending.
>
> - CF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gpva-ic-admin at vagreenparty.org 
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> On Behalf Of aloe at rev.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:15 PM
> To: gpva-ic at vagreenparty.org
> Subject: Re: [gpva-ic] RE: IC Decision NOW IN PROGRESS regarding 
> membership
> list distribution to GP Presidential Candidates
>
> At 06:18 AM 4/8/08 -0400, Audrey Clement wrote:
>>Having heard an objection to the following proposal  from Chris Fink
>>incorporating friendly
>>amendments from Charlie Jordan as a substitute for the original proposal 
>>to
>>distributed the GPVA mailing list upon request to GPUS recognized
>>presidential candidates, it is now scheduled for a vote.
>
>>9. This policy will be in effect up to, but no later than, 31 days before
>>the United States 2008 presidential general election is held.
>
> Perhaps I did not make myself clear on Friday. Let me quote my previous
> remark and provide further explanation.
>
> At 04:08 PM 4/4/08 -0500, aloe at rev.net wrote:
>>The Interim Committee has no authority to make a promise extending beyond
>>May 10. Please make sure the wording of the offer does not set a firm
>>closing date until one can be established. I don't happen to like the
>>October 4 deadline because a candidate may need to contact new members to
>>contest an election tally, to establish standing for matching funds, or to
>>pay off debts. If the question of a deadline is kept flexible and placed 
>>on
>>the May agenda, I will stand aside on #9. (The preferences of our current
>>officers may be informative, but of course their terms will end long 
>>before
>>October.)
>
> "All decisions of the interim committee are subject to revision by the 
> GPVA
> at any scheduled meeting" (GPVA Bylaw XX D 4).
>
> The Interim Committee would usurp power by claiming that its decision 
> would
> bind GPVA beyond the next business meeting. If candidates are told that
> this decision is final, that will be an act of deception.
>
> If the proposal is placed on the agenda to be revisited at the May 
> business
> meeting, and the offer to candidates promises only what the Interim
> Committee can deliver, I agree to stand aside on Provision # 9. If the
> proposal pretends that the offer definitely extends past May and ends in
> October, then I must object and vote to defeat Provision # 9.
>
> I also stand aside on Provisiion # 5 because, at this time, I do not
> understand the tools by which GPVA might control address validation
> services or seek recourse for a breach of security. If a leak develops, we
> will be expected to act, but no one has made clear how we can.
>
> Provision # 2 is acceptable but now redundant.
>
> I accept the opening paragraph and the other provisions, # 1, 3-4, and 
> 6-8.
>
> -- Charlie Jordan of the Blue Ridge Greens 
> <http://www.rev.net/~aloe/green>
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